and simon. the ball is out. ohio state's got it. >> todd: the guy just doesn't slow down. i mean, he is relentless. i mean, he's going to play the last three minutes like he plays the first three minutes. he runs right around him. strips the ball. >> brad: you have about ten guys like that. >> todd: not only are they great players but they're great locker room guys, great moral guys, great leaders, because they do it by example. and they rub off on the rest of your team. >> brad: ohio state's defense, three takeaways and four sacks. made life miserable for taylor martinez. carlos hyde puts both hands around the ball, making sure they don't give it back to nebraska. >> todd: coming into the game, even though nebraska had a winning record and only the one lo, you don't turn the ball over as much as they have done -- >> brad: right. >> todd: if the first five, six games and not have it come back to bite you. good football teams usually win the turnover margin over the course of a season. this team was minus three coming in. they didn't help their cause in that department at a